EURO 2015 draft 2

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EURO 2015 draft 2

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Skaveńska część:
Slave units can be a maximum of 60 models.
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
● Each Warp­lightning Cannon ­ 1 choice
● Each doomwheel ­­ 1 choice
● First Hellpit Abomination ­ 1 choice
● Second Hellpit Abomination ­ 2 choices.
● Stormbanner ­ 1 choice (2 choices with double hellpit Abomination)
● Each non wizard warplock Engineer after the first ­ 1 choice
● Each 40 slaves (or part thereof) over 120 slave models ­ 1 choice
● Each 2 slave units(or part thereof) after the third ­ 1 choice
● 15 or more gutter runners ­ 1 choice
Note ­ The rumoured new Skaven end time units below will be allowed but may cost one or
more pool choices.
● Vermin Lords
● Armoured Rat Ogres
The rumoured new Vermin Lord will not be allowed as he is an End Times Special character
and is by the vote expressely forbidden.
May take any Skaven Special Characters


I ogół:
Army Building Restrictions
General Restrictions
All the Army building restrictions are applied only during the creation of the roster, and may be
ignored during the game (for example, by joining characters to units or creating new units).
The army lists allowed are those from any of the currently published GW Army Books, and
The Legion of Azgorh from Tamurkhan.
Undead Legions, the Legions of Chaos and any other End Times army lists are not allowed.
Special or Named Characters that appear in army books are allowed ­ this excludes all
characters that appear in End Times books and /or battlescrolls or that initially appeared in
White Dwarf but were then included in End Times Books.
Fozzrik’s Folding Fortress may not be taken.
Units cannot be more than 450 points at the point of roster creation. This does not apply to
characters.
All army sizes are 2400 points unless stated otherwise in race specific composition below.
Armies must be constructed on the following basis (in addition to any specific conditions
imposed by their army book)
● Minimum of 3 units
● Minimum of 1 character that can be the army general
● Maximum of 50% of points spent on lords
● Maximum of 50% of points spent on heroes
● Minimum of 25% of points spent on core units
● Maximum of 50% of points spent on special units
● Maximum of 25% of points spent on rare choices
A team consists of 8 players, each of which with an army from a different army list.
A wizard generating spells from lore of death and the Standard of Discipline are mutually
exclusive in any army list at the start of the game (I.e. It is permissible to summon a character
on lore of death using the lore of Undeath if you have a standard of discipline already in the
list)
Generic pool choicesThe following pool choices apply to all armies with the exception of Orcs and Tomb Kings(as
they have no pools)
● If the total points spent on all lords and heroes is greater than 50% of the armies
points ­ 1 pool choice
● If the total points spent on all lords and heroes is greater than 60% of the armies
points ­ 1 further pool choice
Beastmen
Maximum unit size at roster creation excluding characters is increased to 550 points.
May take Blight Kings of Nurgle from Warhammer End Times ­ Glotkin
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
● Extra 75 points ­ 1 choices (up to +300 points maximum),
● May take marks for all units that can do it in Glotkin book ­ 1 choice
● Slugtongue ­ 1 choice
Note that the Marks of Tzeentch, Nurgle and Slaanesh DO NOT allow wizards access to the
corresponding lore from the Warriors of Chaos Book. Wizards with a mark have access to the
same lores of magic as unmarked beastmen wizards (Shadow, Beasts, Death, Beastmen)
May take any beastmen special characters.
Bretonnia
May select up to 2 choices from the pool below:
● Extra 100 points ­ 1 choices (up to +100 points maximum),
● The Green Knight ­ 1 choice
May take any Brettonian special characters.
Chaos Dwarves
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
● Each character using the Lore of Death – 1 choice
● Each HellCannon ­ 1 choice (3 choices with lore of death)
● K'daai Destroyer – 2 choices
● Each DeathShrieker, Magma Cannon, Dreadquake Mortar or Iron Demon – 1 choice
● Each 2(or part thereof) hobgoblin khans after the first 2 ­ 1 choice
● Chalice of Blood and Darkness (may be used only before casting a spell) ­ 1 choice
May take any Chaos Dwarf special characters.Dark Elves
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
● Each character using the Lore of Death – 2 choices
● Each 5(or part of 5) Doomfire Warlock models – 1 choice
● Each mounted dreadlord or master – 1 choice
● One or more repeater bolt throwers– 1 choice
● Each unit of dark riders after the second ­ 1 choice
● Crown of Command – 1 choice
● More than 80 shots from repeater crossbows per turn (Repeater bolt throwers count as
6 shots) ­ 2 choices
● Morathi ­ 4 choices (Lore of Death choice is included)
● Malekith ­ 2 Choices (3 choices if mounted)
May take any Dark Elf special characters.
Demons of Chaos
May take Blight Kings of Nurgle from Warhammer End Times ­ Glotkin­ these models are not
demonic and therefore may not be joined by any model with the demonic special rule. If the
general and / or BSB have the mark of Nurgle they may benefit from them.
May take Exalted Flamers
May select up to 4 choices from the pool below:
● Lore of Death present in the army – 2 choices (irrespective of the number of users of
the lore of death)
● First Skull Cannon – 1 choice
● Second Skull Cannon – 3 choices
● Each Greater demon(Including Skarbrand, Ku’gath) – 1 choice
● Each unit of Pink Horrors after the second – 1 choice
● Each unit of Plague Flies – 1 choice
● Up to 2/6/10 beasts of nurgle in the army ­ 1/2/3 choices
● Kairos Fateweaver ­ 4 choices (includes the cost of lore of death)
● Epidemius ­ 1 choice + 1 choice per unit (excluding Heralds of Nurgle ) of demons of
nurgle.
May take any Demons of Chaos special characters.
Dwarves
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:● Each Cannon, Organ gun, Grudge Thrower or Flame cannon ­ 1 choice each
● Each 2 (or part thereof) gyrocopters after the first ­ 1 choice
● Grimm Burloksson ­ 1 choice
May take any Dwarf special characters.
Empire
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
● Steam Tank – 1 choice
● Second Steam Tank – 4 choices
● Crown of Command, Standard of Discipline, War altar, Great Cannon – 1 choice each
● Third Great Cannon – 1 additional choice
● 3 or more wizards using the Lore of Light ­ 1 choice
● Each unit of 4 or less Demi­Griffons – 1 choice
● Each unit of 5 or more Demi­Griffons – 2 choices
● Balthasar Gelt ­ 1 choice
● Karl Franz ­ 1 choice
May take any Empire special characters.
High Elves
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below
● Banner of the World Dragon ­ 3 choices
● Each frostheart Phoenix ­ 1 choice
● 3 or more mounted characters ­ 1 choice
● 1 or more characters generating spells from lore of death ­ 1 choice
● 1 or more bolt throwers ­ 1 choice
● Each flying strength 6 or greater large target after the second ­ 2 choices
● Teclis ­ 5 choices (Lore of Death if taken is included in this cost)
● Alarielle ­ 2 choices
● Banner of Averlorn ­ 1 choice
May take any High Elf special characters.
Lizardmen
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
● Slann Mage Priest – 1 choice
● Discipline of Harmonic Convergence – 1 choice● Slann Mage Priest taking the Lore of Death – 1 choice (Slann Mage Priests with the
Wandering Deliberations do not count towards this)
● Each cold­one mounted saurus character after the first – 2 choices
● Each flying unit/character after the third – 1 choice
● Each unit of core skirmishers after the third ­ 1 choice
● Each skink cohort after the third ­ 1 choice
● Lord Kroak ­ 2 choices (includes 1 for being a Slann Mage Priest)
● Tetto’Eko ­ 3 choices
May take any Lizardmen special characters
Orcs and Goblins
Army size is increased to 2500 points
May take any Orcs and Goblins Special Characters
Ogres
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
● Ironblaster ­ 1 choice (second 4 choices)
● Hellheart ­ 2 choices
● Crown of command ­ 2 choices
● Runemaw ­ 1 choice
● 1 or more Slaughtermasters in the army including Skragg ­ 1 choices
● Each unit of gnoblars after the third ­ 1 choice
May take any Ogres Special Characters
Skaven
Slave units can be a maximum of 60 models.
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
● Each Warp­lightning Cannon ­ 1 choice
● Each doomwheel ­­ 1 choice
● First Hellpit Abomination ­ 1 choice
● Second Hellpit Abomination ­ 2 choices.
● Stormbanner ­ 1 choice (2 choices with double hellpit Abomination)
● Each non wizard warplock Engineer after the first ­ 1 choice
● Each 40 slaves (or part thereof) over 120 slave models ­ 1 choice● Each 2 slave units(or part thereof) after the third ­ 1 choice
● 15 or more gutter runners ­ 1 choice
Note ­ The rumoured new Skaven end time units below will be allowed but may cost one or
more pool choices.
● Vermin Lords
● Armoured Rat Ogres
The rumoured new Vermin Lord will not be allowed as he is an End Times Special character
and is by the vote expressely forbidden.
May take any Skaven Special Characters
Tomb Kings
Army size is increased to 2700 points.
Maximum unit size at roster creation excluding characters is increased to 550 points.
Army does not crumble upon the death of the Hierophant
May include the following units from Warhammer End Times – Nagash
● Morghast Harbingers
● Morghast Archai
May add up to 3 power dice to the pool instead of 2 if an army does not include Arkhan
May take any Tomb Kings Special Characters
Vampire Counts
May include the following units from Warhammer End Times – Nagash
● Morghast Harbingers
● Morghast Archai
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
● Terrorgheist – 1 choice
● 2nd Terrorgheist – 3 choices
● Each character with Red Fury and/or Quickblood – 1 choice
● Each character using the Lore of Death ­ 1 choice
● Each ethereal character or unit – 1 choice
● Each unit of hexwraith after the 1st ­ 1 choice● Each banshee howl or terrorgheist death shriek after the first – 1 choice
● More than 10 crypt horrors in the army ­ 1 choice
● Each Direwolf and / or Fellbat unit after the fourth ­ 1 choice
● Count Mannfred ­ 2 choices (including death)
May take any Vampire Counts Special Characters
Warriors of Chaos
May take Blight Kings of Nurgle from Warhammer End Times – Glotkin
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
● Each character using the Lore of Death – 1 choice (2 choices if it is a deamon prince)
● Each Demon Prince after the first – 1 choice
● 2+ or better save on a Demon Prince ­ 1 choice
● Each Demon Prince with Mark of Nurgle – 1 choice
● Exalted hero mounted on a demonic mount – 1 choice
● Model with a 3+ ward save and the third eye of tzeentch ­ 2 choices
● HellCannon – 1 choice (2 with lore of death or tzeentch)
● 2nd HellCannon – 2 choices (3 with lore of death or tzeentch)
● Each Chimera – 1 choice
● Each unit of Skullcrushers after the first – 1 choice
● Each Core chariot after the second – 1 choice
● Each flying model after the second ­ 1 choice
● Archaon ­ 2 choices
● Galrauch ­ 1 choice
● Throgg ­ 3 choices
● Crown of Command ­ 1 choice
May take any Warriors of Chaos Special Characters
Wood Elves
All limits are about models, you can spread them anyway you like among units, unless
otherwise specified.
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
● Each character using the Lore of Death – 1 choice (3 choices if 6 or more sisters of the
thorn are present in an army)
● Each unit of Wild Riders after the first – 1 choice
● Each 10 Waywatchers (or part thereof) ­ 1 choice
● Each 15 models (or part thereof) equipped with trueflight arrows or hagbane arrows
after the first 15 models ­ 1 choice● Each Waystalker after the first – 1 choice
● Moonstone of the Hidden Ways – 2 choices (4 choices with lore of death)
● Sisters of Twilight ­ 2 choices
May take any Wood Elf Special Characters
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Hoax
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Żadna z moich rozp w to nie wchodzi :roll:
Ale widzę potencjał w naporze :P

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2 abomy i deathstar i cisniecie

3x10 gutersów też super
"W mojej ocenie byliśmy lepsi skillowo ale przeciwnicy byli lepiej ograni, przygotowani pod nas, mieli lepszy rozpiski, większy głód zwycięstwa i mieliśmy trochę peszka."
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Hoax
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Dokładnie o tym samym pomyślałem. Szkoda tylko, że slavy mocno wchodzą w compa. Chyba trzeba będzie zrobić tylko 2 unity, tak po 50 chłopa a do tego jakieś clanraty. To też w sumie nie taka zła opcja ze względu na B&G. Wtedy jest jeszcze jeden slot wolny na jakieś koło/latarkę/elektryka.

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Straszliwy Power się zrobił. Nie wiem tylko czy 2 abomy i latrka, czy 2 latarki i abomka;p do 1 opcji dochodzi jeszcze quekk headtaker.
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Wind Sower pisze:Nawet w średniowieczu papież nerfił strzelanie.
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Hoax
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Janus pisze:do 1 opcji dochodzi jeszcze quekk headtaker.
True. W sumie to całkiem fajny ten komp :P

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2x40 slaves, 40 stormów, 40 clanratów, dwie abomy, latarka i kadra, albo dwie latarki, aboma i więcej kadry :] Tak czy siak, przy odrobinie szczęścia robi się maszynka do mięsa :] A ilość slaves to mozna by pokminić nawet 1x60, skoro tanich elektryków już nie ma...

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Witam,

Wracam do gry po długiej przerwie i stąd pytanko do nowego EURO:

Each non wizard warplock Engineer after the first - 1 choice -- mam liczyć ten punkt dopiero za drugiego nieczarującego elektryka (np elektryk 1 lvl, elektryk, elektryk), czy w ogóle za drugiego elektryka niezależnie czy pierwszy umie czarować czy nie?

ajt
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Tak, dopiero zaczyna się liczyć od drugiego nieposiadającego magii.

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update pierwszego posta

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Pytanie bo dla mnie to te dwa punkty się wykluczają... jak w końcu jest?
Note ­ The rumoured new Skaven end time units below will be allowed but may cost one or
more pool choices.
● Vermin Lords
● Armoured Rat Ogres
The rumoured new Vermin Lord will not be allowed as he is an End Times Special character
and is by the vote expressely forbidden.
Draconis - Wejherowski Klub Gier Bitewnych

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chodzi o special charactera vermin lorda w drugim akapicie, nie-specjale są dopuszczeni

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Dzięki :)
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nowy draft.....

Skaven
Slave units can be a maximum of 60 models.
May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
● Each Warp­lightning Cannon ­ 1 choice
● Each doomwheel ­­ 1 choice
● First Hellpit Abomination ­ 1 choice
● Second Hellpit Abomination ­ 2 choices.
● Stormbanner ­ 1 choice (2 choices with double hellpit Abomination)
● Each non wizard warplock Engineer after the first ­ 1 choice
● Each 40 slaves (or part thereof) over 120 slave models ­ 1 choice
● Each 2 slave units(or part thereof) after the third ­ 1 choice
● 15 or more gutter runners ­ 1 choice
● Second Vermin Lord ­ 1 choice (2 if it is a duplicate choice e.g. 2 Vermin Lord Deceivers)
● Each Stormfiend in a unit after the first model ­ 1 pool choice
Skreech Verminking will not be allowed as he is an End Times Special character and is by the vote expressly forbidden.
May take any Skaven Special Characters

no to ucieli ladnie stormfiendy :D unit 4 takich to 3pkt :D

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mnie to zupełnie nie boli, bo zwykle wykorzystywałem 3/5pkt - 2działa i aboma. Teraz mogę zrobić rozpę mocniej opartą na magii i strzelaniu, np. 2 działa i 4 fiendy z klopami albo ratlingami

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Dobrze że się wytrzymałem z zakupem boxa nowych rat ogrów :D.
"War. War never changes".

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MadMax pisze:Dobrze że się wytrzymałem z zakupem boxa nowych rat ogrów :D.
ja tak samo :P

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Mishry
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Czekajcie.
Oddział Turboszczurow liczy minimum 3 jednostki. Czyli 2 pkt z przydzialu ida na oddzial tak?
Przeciez to jest mega z dupy.
Chyba ze zle rozumiem...

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dobrze rozumiesz.... oddzial 3 zabiera 2pkt....oddzial 4 zabiera 3pkt.... itd....
tak wiec chcac ich wystawic masz z bazy w plecy 2 pkt...

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Ja tam nie rozumiem marudzenia;p Wstawiasz 2x3 turboszczurki i jedną lampę albo 4 szczury i 2 lampy.
Do tego 2x7 gutterów i jest mocne strzelanie, traci się tak naprawdę sztormiaka/abomkę.

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