Skaveńskie Q&A

[Siwek]

do challenga nie mozna deklarowac atakow

A wampirza Banshee nie drze przypadkiem mordy w cudze pojedynki?

[Koziorożec]

Może "drzeć mordę" tylko w unity, a gdy walczy, tylko w unit z którym walczy. Do pojedynków się tutaj nic nie ma, z tego co mi wiadomo.

[Shino]

do challenga nie mozna deklarowac atakow

A wampirza Banshee nie drze przypadkiem mordy w cudze pojedynki?

chodzilo mi o deklarowanie atakow hth

skaveny (globki) moga strzelac do walki wiec takze do pojedynkow podobnie jest z czarowaniem. Jesli mozna do walki to do challenga tez

czar numero 13 może być rzucony do kombata ??

nie

[Mac]

Żaden inny model nie może atakować żadnej z nich ani ich wierzchowców, nawet wtedy, gdy styka się z nimi podstawką.

Z polskiego podręcznika, fragment dotyczący walczących w pojedynku bohaterów i ich relacji z innymi modelami. Nie wiem czy to kwestia przetłumaczenia, ale wynikałoby z tego, że nie można byłoby atakować jednostki, składającej się wyłącznie z postaci, która znajduje się w pojedynku.

--CCCCC------------
--CCCCC------------
--CCCCC------------
--CCCCC------------
--CCACC------------
----BB--------------
----BB--------------
--------------------
----------G--G---G-
-------G---G---G---
----------G---G--G-

C - oddział skaveński
A - hero skaveński
B - hero przeciwnika na jakimś wierzchowcu
G - globadierzy
A i B są w pojedynku

Bo chyba właśnie chodziło o sytuacje, jak powyżej. Rozumiałbym gdyby oprócz samego herosa jeszcze byłby inny oddział, ale w tak ekstremalnej sytuacji?

EDIT: Choć w sumie... zaraz po przeprowadzeniu ataków bohaterowie jeśli przeżyli kończą pojedynek i fazie shootingu go nie ma... więc, tak raczej można byłoby strzelać w combat w takim przypadku...

[Niglafar]

mam pytanie odnośnie nowej zasady skavenslaves

Cornered Rats: Desperate Skavenslaves can be vicious. Should a Skavenslave unit
break from combat, all units within D6" (friend or foe) immediately take D3 S3 hits.
Another hit is added to the total rolled for each additional rank of slaves after the first
one. The broken unit, including any characters that joined them, are then removed,
just as if they had been wiped out in close combat.

jeśli podczas mojej szarży slavy nie zdadzą break testa i zgodnie z w/w zasadą traktuje się je jako wiped out to czy mogę zrobić overrun?

i dodatkowo by się upewnić:
doomwheel tylko porusza się jak chariot, trafienia z S7 mu wiszą prawda?

[Manfred]

możesz overrunować
Tak doomwheela nie rusza S7

[Shino]

daj cytat. Bo z tego co przegladalem to wczesniej to nie ma nic zaznaczonego, ze moze po jednym czarze losowac

Strona 41 angielski book

A Grey Seer can freely mix spells from both Skaven spell disciplines, just be sure to announce which spell table is being used before rolling

w ktorej czesci wyynika, ze losujesz po jednym czarze? rzucasz na wszystkie na raz. W skavenach nie ma fregmentuz booka do lizi pozwalajacego na rzucanie czaru po jednym

[gervaz]

A ja mam pytanie przed zbliżającą się bitwą:
- wyobraźmy sobie następującą sytuację - warlord siedzi na rat ogre bonebreaker, i w na tkim wierzchowcu wchodzi do oddziału klanratów. Czy wtedy cały oddział wzbudza strach i jest odporny na strach?

[Myth]

Oddział jest odporny na strach dzięki obecności lorda i jego mounta, ale to sam mount wywołuje fear, to nie przechodzi na oddział clanratów na potrzeby fear outnumber.

[Stefczyk]

w ktorej czesci wyynika, ze losujesz po jednym czarze? rzucasz na wszystkie na raz. W skavenach nie ma fregmentuz booka do lizi pozwalajacego na rzucanie czaru po jednym

No ok. No to jak chcesz mieszać zaklęcia na jakiej zasadzie? Bo teraz nie jestem pewien?

[Shino]

deklarujesz 2 z tego 2 z tego (lub 3 z pierwszego 1 z drugiego) itp.

slann mial napisane w zasadach wprost, ze rzuca sie kostka za czar z dowolneglo lore'a (zamieniajac na 1 jesli ci sie nie podoba czar) potem nastepna kostka wybiera kolejny lorei kolejny czar. Tu tego zapisku brakuje

oczywiscie jest to imo

[Xen]

Shino, a czego nie brakuje w tym booku?

[Shino]

Shino, a czego nie brakuje w tym booku?

obrazkow tu sie naprawde w niektorych momentach postarali

[Xen]

Hehe, ano racja ^^ Fluff też niczego sobie =] Szkoda, że o reszcie tak nie można powiedzieć..

Ja mam jeszcze takie pytanko, czy trzeba poruszać się cały Mv wylosowany przez Abotkę albo DW?

[Shino]

to akurat a pewno tak. w koncu to compulsory move

[Xen]

Oki, dziękować ^^

[Myth]

Greeting fellow ratmen!!!

Well, as you all know by now, the 7th Ed Skaven book looks like it was written by 3 year old high on crack. Because of this, I took the liberty to get in touch with GW HQ Australia via email to try and get a few answers on some of the pressing questions in the book. A few days ago, I recieved a response. Please find below my original email and GW's response. Please note: its a bit lengthy.

My email
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Hello there,

Im not sure if this is the correct address to post such a question, but im curious to know when and if a 7th edition Skaven FAQ will be coming out in the near forseeable future. The reason I ask is because many items and rules that appear in the book are ambiguous at best, and this is playing havoc with the Warhammer tournament scene on a national level. Many tournament organisers across the country are having to implement a variety of "house rules" for many army rules and magic items within the Skaven book for the beginning of next year's tournament season, and these "house rules" of course change from tournament to tournament (for instance, I have already heard 3 different ways in which Warpstone Tokens will be supposed to work). As a result, Skaven players such as myself are having a hard time on the tournament circuits because no two magic items or rule sets ever seem to work the same way twice. I have spoken to members of online forums to try and address these problems as well (such as the folk over at underempire.net), but opinion is divided.

Also, as an aside to the FAQ question, I was wondering if you could provide some "hard and fast" rules interpretations that may be used as a sort of "official" ruling until the FAQ is released. Your opinion on the following would really help both tournament organisers and Skaven players alike:

1. The StormBanner - possibly the most controversial item in the entire army book. In the item rules, it states that the banner can be activated in any player turn, and that on a roll of 4+ at the beginning of subsequent player turns, the banner's effects end. The controversy behind this item however is that it is NOT listed as "One Use Only" (as it was in the 6th edition Skaven book), and the ambiguous wording of the way the banner runs out leaves it open to the idea that, once the banner's effects end, the banner can be "reactivated" at the beginning of the next player turn (similar to the way the Bands of Power magic item worked in the 6th edition Skaven book). How should this item operate?" As a "One Use Only" banner, or can it be reactivated on the turn after it shuts off?"

2. Warpstone Tokens - another interesting item. This allows a wizard to cast a spell with an additional dice, however there is no mention that the item is "One User Only", which means that it could be interpreted that the wizard gets an additional dice for every spell he wishes to cast. This becomes a problem if a wizard buys multiple Warpstone Tokens, as it implies that he gets free multiple dice to cast all of his spells with. Is this correct?

3. The Scavenge Pile - The army book states that characters may buy items from the scavenge pile up to a certain points limit. The problem with this is there doesnt seem to be a "cap" on the number of items that can be bought. For instance, can a character buy multiple Rat Hound BodyGaurds? Multiple Tail Blades? etc.

I have many more questions, but I will leave those for the moment. The above are the three most pressing questions that Skaven players face, and I greatly thank you if you can shed any light on these.

Thank you for your time,

Your Com-Rat in arms,

ChieftainSkritchSkritch



and the reply I got:
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Hi ChieftainSkritchSkritch,

Thanks for writing in. I am quite certain that there will be a Skaven FAQ, however we're not sure as to when this will be released.
As soon as it is available though I believe they will be letting people know through the 'What's new today" section of the website.

Please bare in mind that the following answers are meant to help you get by until the FAQ is released.

1. The banner states that after the banner is activated roll a D6 and the beginning of each following player's turn, the effects will end on a roll of a 4+. If it is deactivated then you'll have to wait until
the next turn to re-activate it (since at the start of that turn the banner was active before it was de-activated on a roll of 4+). It is not classified as a 'one use only' so it can be use multiple times.

2. No. Note that you 'consume' a token every time you use it (each token is essentially a 'one use only'). So if you have 3 Warpstone tokens and choose to use one you will be left with 2 afterwards.

3. Unless stated otherwise you can only have one of each item from the scavenge pile (though it would be cool to have a 'pack' of rat hound bodyguards).

Again I stress that this is how we play the rules and how we read them, this may/will change when the issue is raised in the new Skaven FAQ.

Squeek!

Best Regards,
Paolo
Hobby Service Centre
Customer Service: + 61 (02) 9829 6111
Monday to Friday 9:00am to 5:00pm AEST



And there was a stupid banner with a tyranid on it below this, but somehow I dont think thats relevant to the topic.

Discuss!!!

MUTATE: Also, im curious to know what other questions need to be raised in our FAQ to make this damn book playable. May i suggest that, if you have any questions, post them below and i'll email another set back to this guy. lets see if we can compile our own little mini "Underempire FAQ" while we wait however long it takes to get an official FAQ released.

Cytat z Underempire, enjoy

Oczywiście zamieszczam to bardziej jako ciekawostkę niż start nie wiadomo jakiego tematu i flame'a

[Cosmo]

Widze ze na caly swiecie mamy te same problemy ;-) Milo slyszec ze nie tylko Polacy to PG ;P Anyway kamien z serca z tym Bannerem, chociaz Tokenow szkoda.. Mogl jeszcze zapytac o podstawke pod Abomination ;)

[SKAVENOS]

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[Cosmo]

Edit: No i po sprawie.